New to Mutt, unable to send messages in *any* attempted way

[Sam Kuper]

On Thu, May 05, 2022 at 11:24:36AM -0500, xtec at trimaso.com.mx wrote:
> *Beforehand*, if you'll answer just with questions without advise, or
> mock, just ban me better.

I do have questions, but these are to help understand what might be
going wrong.


> printf "%b\n" "$msg" | mutt -s "Test message" -e "set
> my_user=user at domain.tld; set my_url=smtp.domain.tld; set from='User';
> set use_from=yes; set smtp_url=smtp://$my_user@$my_url; set
> smtp_pass=p4ss; set ssl_starttls=yes; set ssl_force_tls=yes"
> receiver at domain.tld
> 
> Could not find the host ""
> Could not send the message.

Are you able to send email via that account using other applications?

If so, which other applications?

For instance, have you succeeded with the `mail` application?

If you're not sure whether you have the `mail` application installed,
try entering at your terminal:

    which mail


> Have to explicitly specify the port; though it varies from ISP to
> ISP!? In some I need, in some other I don't!

Yes.  Whether or not you have to explicitly specify the port may depend
on the mail server's configuration.  This configuration can vary from
ISP to ISP.

Thankfully, this shouldn't be a problem once you have debugged your
issue, because you can save the relevant details (ports, URLs) in a
configuration file so that Mutt will know which details to use for which
ISP.


> What's the difference between Mutt and Neomutt? Which one preferable?

Neomutt is a fork of Mutt.  Neomutt is maintained by a different person
to Mutt.  Neomutt includes various third-party extensions to Mutt, and
some other changes.

If you want a smaller TCB and simpler configuration, Mutt is probably
the best option.

If you want fancier features, Neomutt is probably the best option.


Given that you are experiencing configuration difficulties, I would
suggest trying to overcome those first, perhaps with the help of people
on this mailing list.

If no success, then maybe try a newer version of Mutt next.  (I know you
said you can't do it, but where there's a will there's a way.)

If, once you've got Mutt working and you've lived with it for a while,
you decide you want some features that are more readily available in
Neomutt then you could switch to Neomutt at that point - but many people
find they are delighted with pure Mutt.

Good luck!

Sam

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