My experiences with Mutt to date: Suggestions for overcoming some issues

Angel M Alganza ama at ugr.es
Mon Feb 15 02:45:47 UTC 2021


On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 06:39:10PM -0600, boB Stepp wrote:

>> msmtp-queue -r -- runs (flushes) all the contents of the queue
>>
>> Try running 'msmtp-queue -r' at your shell. It should trigger sending.
>>
>> Adding 'msmtp-queue -r' as a cron job should do it automatically.

> So it sounds like I wasn't missing anything from what you and Sam are saying.
> I don't send out very many emails; I read far more than I respond to.  My
> Internet connection is usually very reliable.  I am wondering if it is even
> worth the effort for a cron job on this.

Same here, most of the time, but I do mail on many different devices,
some of which I take out with me (on travels, for walks to do some
exercise and take some lithe sun bathe, for work to places I don't have
any other connection than data on my phone, etc.).

In any case, even when I am on the conditions you describe, the "effort
for a cron job on this" is, of course, worth.  The effort to set it up
is a couple of minutes adding a line to the crontab, and the
"computation effort" of running 'msmtp-queue -r' every hour, for
example, or even much more often, is close to zero.  And you probably
are using cron to trigger downloading mail anyway already, right?  As I
also said before, in my case, I have a few lines to download different
type of mail at different frequencies.

> I think what you suggest -- an manual 'msmtp-queue -r' as needed -- is
> more than ample for my use case.  For that matter, in most instances I
> don't even mind waiting until I send another email which will achieve
> the same effect.

Sure, if you remember do in it.  In any case, I wasn't suggesting to
always do it manually, but for you to try it out once to see its effect
before adding it to your crontab.  :-)  In case you either had missed it
in the documentation.

> Thank you very much for everyone's suggestions!  My Mutt installation is
> getting better and better and faster and faster!

Same here.  As I said on a previous email in this thread, I had settled
to wait for msmtp to deliver my outgoing mail when online, which was
tolerable, but a little annoying some times,  and to just flag mail I
needed to reply while offline to reply them later, when online, which
was much worse, since some times I forgot I had to do it.

Now, both things are gone, which makes my set up much better.  I wonder
what other wonderful things are out there that could improve it further.
The cool thing is that when I come across some of those, like in this
case, it is so exiting and so much fun to discover, test, set up, and then
enjoy using them...

Cheers,
Ángel (exited to hit 'y' to see this mail sent out of mutt as fast as it
used to happen when I ran exim in all my boxes.)


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