Going GUI...er

mutt at amrx.net mutt at amrx.net
Sun Apr 5 15:05:29 UTC 2020


Propagating the notion that E-Mail and Calendar are separate things is
probably the best thing to do, to undo their evil marriage. The calendar
related RFC's that I have looked at indicate that the protocols were
designed work and communicate completely independent of E-Mail, yet the
majority of people believe these things are designed or must to go together.

Truly, sending the human an E-Mail, to read, is a great response, but
could trigger a frustrating conversation about auto populating calendar
items, be prepared to defend your mutt way of life.


On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 11:44:16AM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 09:06:13AM -0700, Felix Finch wrote:
> > On 20200404, Sam Kuper wrote:
> >>This ~/.mailcap works tolerably under Gnome [...]
> > 
> > I've been using something similar for several years, and one thing
> > missing from this is a way to respond to invites.  Perhaps it's an
> > Outlook-only thing, but I invariable get followup emails asking me to
> > click "Accept", and I never see any such links.  Looking at it in the
> > Outlook webmail, there is an RSVP section with buttons for Accept
> > Yes/No.
> 
> AFAICT, this is just another Micro$oft lock-in attempt.
> 
> 
> > Looking at the actual mime part, each invitee has an RSVP section.
> > 
> >    ATTENDEE;ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;RSVP=TRUE;CN=Joe Blow :mailto:jblow at megacorp.com
> > 
> > [...] Do any calendar filters replicate this RSVP business? [...]
> 
> I, too, would be grateful to know this.  Not because I support lock-in,
> but because simplifying calendar invites/RSVPs should not be beyond the
> means of free (as in freedom) software.  (Compatibility with proprietary
> implementations should be a secondary concern.)  The key difficulty is
> likely to be broken time zone implementations (see below).
> 
> 
> In the meantime, you can just reply to the message (which, after all,
> was sent as an email):  "Thanks, I accept your invitation to the meeting
> at 5pm PDT on 5th May 2020."
> 
> N.B. I strongly suggest including the time, zone and date in your reply,
> as above, because sometimes automated invites:
> 
> - use the wrong time zone for the event, AND
> - do not specify the time zone that they are assuming!
> 
> 
> > The only "http" links are for zoom.
> 
> Don't be shy about alerting those senders that they are sending you
> links to malware.  Seriously.  See: https://gu.com/p/dtx4g
> 
> N.B. Even MS Outlook should not be sending Zoom links by default (not
> because Micro$oft cares about giving you malware, but because Zoom is
> non-Micro$oft).  So, those senders presumably installed or configured
> something at their end that causes those links to be inserted.
> 
> -- 
> A: When it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: When is top-posting a bad thing?
> 
> ()  ASCII ribbon campaign. Please avoid HTML emails & proprietary
> /\  file formats. (Why? See e.g. https://v.gd/jrmGbS ). Thank you.


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