What does "Convert ... upon sending" mean?
Paul Gilmartin
PaulGBoulder at aim.com
Tue Apr 23 21:48:39 UTC 2019
On 2019-04-21, at 23:53:34, Cameron Simpson wrote:
>>>> 3 3 � � � � c l t � C L T 3
>>>
>>> How are those listings obtained? Might the thing presenting those listings be interpreting the iso8859-5 data as the local character encoding and thus misrendering?
>>>
>> They're the Unicode "Replacement Character":
>> https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/fffd/index.htm
>> HTML Entity (hex) �
>> UTF-8 (hex) 0xEF 0xBF 0xBD (efbfbd)
>
> Is the listing above the content of the attachment? Or the result of some dump tool?
>
> Anything displayed on the terminal has been through various translations (including the terminal itself), and I was wondering if you were looking at your two outputs via different mechanisms.
>
OK. I need to use "some dump tool" because my retinas aren't sensitive
to magnetic domains on a disk. So, I dragged the attachment once from my
Sent folder and once from Inbox to desktop. Then:
510 $ od -tx1 *sent.txt | head -16
0000000 20 20 20 20 48 6f 73 74 3a 20 49 42 4d 2d 31 30
0000020 34 37 20 20 6f 75 74 70 75 74 3a 20 66 72 6f 6d
0000040 5f 49 53 4f 38 38 35 39 2d 35 0a 20 20 20 20 20
0000060 20 20 20 20 20 30 20 20 31 36 20 20 33 32 20 20
0000100 34 38 20 20 36 34 20 20 38 30 20 20 39 36 20 31
0000120 31 32 20 31 32 38 20 31 34 34 20 31 36 30 20 31
0000140 37 36 20 31 39 32 20 32 30 38 20 32 32 34 20 32
0000160 34 30 0a 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 30 20 20
0000200 31 30 20 20 32 30 20 20 33 30 20 20 34 30 20 20
0000220 35 30 20 20 36 30 20 20 37 30 20 20 38 30 20 20
0000240 39 30 20 20 61 30 20 20 62 30 20 20 63 30 20 20
0000260 64 30 20 20 65 30 20 20 66 30 0a 0a 20 20 20 30
0000300 20 20 30 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
0000320 20 20 30 20 20 20 40 20 20 20 50 20 20 20 60 20
0000340 20 20 70 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 a0 20
0000360 20 20 b0 20 20 20 c0 20 20 20 d0 20 20 20 e0 20
... notice the 5 non-ASCII octets, a0, b0, c0, d0, and e0 in the last
two lines. After a trip through AOL:
512 $ od -tx1 *SCII.txt | head -17
0000000 20 20 20 20 48 6f 73 74 3a 20 49 42 4d 2d 31 30
0000020 34 37 20 20 6f 75 74 70 75 74 3a 20 66 72 6f 6d
0000040 5f 49 53 4f 38 38 35 39 2d 35 0a 20 20 20 20 20
0000060 20 20 20 20 20 30 20 20 31 36 20 20 33 32 20 20
0000100 34 38 20 20 36 34 20 20 38 30 20 20 39 36 20 31
0000120 31 32 20 31 32 38 20 31 34 34 20 31 36 30 20 31
0000140 37 36 20 31 39 32 20 32 30 38 20 32 32 34 20 32
0000160 34 30 0a 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 30 20 20
0000200 31 30 20 20 32 30 20 20 33 30 20 20 34 30 20 20
0000220 35 30 20 20 36 30 20 20 37 30 20 20 38 30 20 20
0000240 39 30 20 20 61 30 20 20 62 30 20 20 63 30 20 20
0000260 64 30 20 20 65 30 20 20 66 30 0a 0a 20 20 20 30
0000300 20 20 30 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
0000320 20 20 30 20 20 20 40 20 20 20 50 20 20 20 60 20
0000340 20 20 70 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 ef bf
0000360 bd 20 20 20 ef bf bd 20 20 20 ef bf bd 20 20 20
0000400 ef bf bd 20 20 20 ef bf bd 20 20 20 ef bf bd 0a
... each non-ASCII octet has been changed to Replacement, "ef bf bd".
> Can you deliver the same message attachments through 2 SMTP services (AOL and another) ...
>
I can use 3 SMTP servers: AOL, Yahoo, and GMail. The problem occurs with
AOL, not Yahoo or GMail. The behavior does not depend on which IMAP server
I use with a viewer. I blame AOL's SMTP.
Thanks for your advice,
gil
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