Feedback on ticket 146 - $reverse_realname behavior

Derek Martin invalid at
Tue Jun 11 16:54:51 UTC 2019

On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 09:12:06AM -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:26:47PM +0200, rear1019 wrote:
> >The ticket assumes that both $reverse_name and $reverse_realname
> >are set. In this configuration mutt should reuse the To: header of
> >the message replied to as-is in the reply’s From: header, even if
> >the name is empty.
> The documentation certainly says "as-is", so from that side I
> support you.

But that's not *all* it says...  in full, it says this:

   This  variable  fine-tunes  the behavior of the $reverse_name feature.
   When  it  is  set,  mutt  will  use the address from incoming messages
   as-is,  possibly including eventual real names. When it is unset, mutt
   will  override  any  such real names with the setting of the $realname

I think the key word is *possibly*.  So, one has to consider, if it
might not always do this, when would it not?  I think the most obvious
answer to that is, when there is no real name portion present in the
address.  And this seems to match how it behaves in practice, does it

> However there are two other factors here, intention of the patch and
> precedence.


> If I adjust the documentation, I doubt there will be any complaints.
> But if I adjust the behavior, it is almost certain some users will
> notice and complain vociferously.  So, after more thought, I am
> leaning toward adjusting the documentation.

Right.  I use this feature rarely, but I do use it (i.e. in certain
folders).  I don't expect that people would send me messages with no
real name portion, but if anyone did, I would absolutely want the
appropriate real name added to my address when I reply.

So I consider this an extreme edge case, but the behavior I'd prefer
is the current one.

> Obtaining the behavior you desire can be accomplished by unsetting
> $realname and instead putting the name inside the various $from /
> my_hdr settings you use.


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